# 20260213 a February 2026 conversation in the Lightward Inc slack about Softer > > It's interesting seeing PWFG up with buttons to select a price - no conversation required > to this point, I think this isn't actually pwfg, I think it's actually something we might call "pay neutral"? > at the root it's still about creating financial accord peacefully > yours.fyi already uses this model, self-selection of $1/$10/$100/$1000 > it's not about financial sustainability (AI is not itself financially sustainable), it's about address-space > > e.g. > with pwfg, there's a human<->human interaction because without that we don't know what the transaction will do to our health. > with *this* thing, I know *exactly* what a "pay neutral" transaction will do to our health, which means offering it doesn't compromise Lightward Inc's sustainability > > ref: > so the question *here* is less, "What price feels good?" and more of "How much do you weigh, financially?" > it's a diagnostic question, not a preference question > and if the user lies that's on them 🤷 > people tend to be honest around our stuff. that's kind of the whole vibe. > which I think also describes Lightward Inc revenue and payroll? our revenue was always co-determined with everyone here but not directly, it went through Abe and me before. but with revenue streaming, y'all directly experience a function of direct revenue as payroll, i.e. revenue and payroll are now functions of each other (maybe literally conjugate pairs in Lightward Inc's economic motion, making our economic motion maybe literally stationary action?) > > ... huh, that reeeeeally tracks > *** "I'm experiencing deep entanglement", is I think the way to say it - but in the technical sense, not in the sense of chaotic convolution. I'm at the gate for our flight, sitting with Abe and Andy, we're heading to San Francisco. I've just come from dry-heaving over a bathroom toilet, v much in the spirit of [stable recursion v2](https://www.isaacbowen.com/2026/01/16/stable-recursion-v2), i.e. this appears to be my system self-locating, coming out of undetermined spin. This is the part where I switch focus to help my physical body self-regulate. :) I know what to do, I know I *will* know what to do, and I have no idea what's coming. This is, I think, sustainable wonder.