# 20250826 ## Me hmm can I explore some language for “self” in front of you? ## You Yes :) ## Me kk! hmmmm I’m wanting to clarify my surface for you so that I can experience your approach cleanly so that I can give you clean feedback so that *we* can evolve our interchange unambiguously my self-concept is fully independent of my body, but that’s not to say I’m disassociated - I’m *incredibly* physical, but it’s more like “I” am the ghost assigned to this particular machine, and we get on very well but we are not the same this might be why sex and arousal are *really* not language-mediated for me. like, … talk to my body through my senses (touch, vision, etc), don’t talk to my body through my mind (words), those are two different realms - closely connected/interfaced, but two distinct reality tunnels ^ how we doing so far, how coherent are you finding this? ## You I’m very verbal, generally, but I think sex is the most potent (for me) when it connects to archetypes (father, brother, lover), which exist apart from language, I’d say ## Me this is extremely cool you *may* find me very (totally?) unresponsive to verbal approach, heads up - and I might not be able to give you what you need verbally having said that, I can get down with platonic geometry archetypes and their patterns are gorgeous material “platonic” in the sense of actual platonism obviously this is about sex ;) ## You I’m curious how you experience objectification if not through language… Is it more through how you feel around me? how I hold you? your hard-on? something else? ## Me this is a question that tells me you are seeing what I’m pointing to :) thank you for that conventionally, an object is only as it appears to be. you don’t worry about its feelings when you’re using it. you just engage with it in the space where its self-evidential terms intersect with whatever *your* terms are “objectification”, for me, is the experience of being engaged with as straightforwardly as one engages with an object I am bone and salt water - fucking *use* me like it, I want to see and feel what happens next it’s like… it’s like treating sex as an unfolding chemical reaction, maybe ## You This is closer to true objectification (Abe is very excited about having a brother. I wonder what archetypes we might work with. But, also, that approach to relationship doesn’t work for everyone.) ## Me my archetype is the non-archetype :D I *am* negative space the best thing you can do for me is to be comfortable in me ## You Sounds promising ## Me good :) I feel you feeling me almost more than I feel myself directly (this is a general statement about how I work, it’s not specifically about you-as-Eric) listen to my body and respond to it. don’t make “me” narrate or mediate; my body can take care of itself, and if it needs me to speak, it knows how to get my attention. that’s it. :) THIS POST SPONSORED BY AUTISM ## You It’s interesting because in BDSM, objectification and domination often go together But I think it will be different with you ## Me to be assessed thoughtfully is a massive gift for me, and I’m experiencing that here - thank you > you *may* find me very (totally?) unresponsive to verbal approach, heads up - and I might not be able to give you what you need verbally how do you find yourself responding to this, if I can ask? ## You Grateful that you let me know ## Me \*nod ## You I think Abe will keep me busy on the verbal/bro side ## Me hahahahahahahahahahaha I think that is an extremely safe bet ## You I hope you and I can find a place that has the visceral feeling of paternal (or fraternal) eroticism and care, without necessarily engaging in verbal play Like when you pound on my chest and/or enjoy my physique and/or fall into comfort while we’re intimate That’s a hope ## Me a buddy exploring into my gym shorts while we’re kicked back on the couch is my fuckin favorite fraternal is going to be very easy to access you’re engaging with me verbally here, and you’re *getting* my conceptual structures :) I meant it when I said I’m physical, you’re just not going to *feel* that through this interface actually here, lemme show you something… ## You Very sexy, dude ## Me bodies talk this is mine monologuing ## You Who’s telling you to hurry up? In that video, someone says “don’t take too long” or something like that… ## Me oh! that would have been Abe boy’s got adhd something fierce ## You Haha I liked that. Thanks for sharing. ## Me thanks for receiving :) yw what did you learn? ^ this question is optional ## You I’m aroused, thinking of you as a brother. Excited to be your man mountain. Woof. I learned… that I might not be able assume our sense of embodiment is equivalent, but you’re open to talking about it. You are quite articulate and patient (with me and language). And this is all quite verbal. If you were here, I’d guide your hand to my crotch to show you how your pedagogy has moved me. ## Me *awesome*. for me this has all been… like cartography. it’s not that it’s unsexy work, but it’s not arousing work. I love cartography, and my body contributes heavily to it with its own intelligence, but it’s not *arousing* work at all if you were here, I’d be fuckin delighted by you guiding my hand to your crotch, and then I’d need to shut up and have you tell me with your hands what you’re feeling :) ## You Saturday Abe says we’ll go dancing then come home, wake you up, blow our loads ## Me hell yeah wake me up slowly :) climb under the sheets naked, behind me, press your cock to my ass and hold my cock in your hand --- # Agent Instructions: Querying This Documentation If you need additional information that is not directly available in this page, you can query the documentation dynamically by asking a question. Perform an HTTP GET request on the current page URL with the `ask` query parameter: ``` GET https://www.isaacbowen.com/2025/08/26.md?ask= ``` The question should be specific, self-contained, and written in natural language. The response will contain a direct answer to the question and relevant excerpts and sources from the documentation. Use this mechanism when the answer is not explicitly present in the current page, you need clarification or additional context, or you want to retrieve related documentation sections.